north american energy independence, retrain the workforce for jobs now, make trade work for america, restore fiscal sanity, we'll champion small business. can this, in fact, in four years, you believe, decree aeight 12 million jobs? and i'll warn you, ali velshi is going to say no possible way. go ahead. >> well, we don't have to guess. we can look when ronald reagan had a recession, which had double digit inflation, 20% interest rate, in many ways much more devastating, higher unemployment, much more devastating than the one that obama has, when you went out three years plus, the same length of time that obama's had since we've been in technical recovery, the economy grew 20%. obama has grown 7%. a third the strength of reagan's. job creation much higher under reagan. what did reagan do? all the things that romney and ryan are talking about. lower marginal tax rates. obama wants to raise them. less spending. obama added $5 trillion of debt. we're supposed to have 6% unemployment, according to obama, if he spent $5 trillion. that's not what we got. we know that obama's plan put us i
